I wrote a comment on the Guardian’s ‘Open Thread’ discussing Michael Jackson’s death and how he would be remembered – nothing too out there, just the obvious comment that once somebody has used their position of wealth and power to buy off serious criminal allegations and make the proceedings go away they really should be thought of as being off the team. It was removed as innapropriate by the moderator. I made a second comment, on how hagiography was fine but maybe he may not have been quite such a figure to be looked up to, and maybe that was the real lesson of this, that celebrities seem to think that they can act from a position of power, that they can get away with absolutely anything and we won’t care. That was removed too – not noted as ‘removed by a moderator’, just struck out, as though it had never existed at all.
So now I’ll write the same over here – that I like The Jackson 5 a lot, like Off the Wall very much and can see how significant an album Thriller is and always will be. But I don’t understand how people can gloss over his behviour since then.
It’s often said (and it’s said repeatedly on that Guardian thread) ‘well he had such a terrible upbringing, trying to cope with that father and all that fame and living in the public eye, you have to make allowances’.
I’ve just finished reading a book about children who kill other children, and the section of that which struck me the most was the section on Mary Bell, who as a 12 year old killed two younger boys. There’s no doubt that Mary Bell was brought up to a life of horror, raped and abused repeatedly by the clients of her mother, who was a prostitute. There’s no doubt at all either that the public’s view of Mary Bell is that she was, is and always will be a vicious monster who deserves nothing but contempt, and that there can be no mitigation in her background that might change this. There’s a message to Venables and Thompson in this – start singing and dancing now, whilst you still have a chance.
I’m not trying to make a direct comparison here – I’m not suggesting he’s been running around killing children on the sly – but Jackson paid over twenty million dollars to make child abuse allegations go away before they reached legal proceedings – and he did it in public. (I don’t think it’s too unreasonable to speculate about the amount of money he might have paid along the way which served its purpose and kept other allegations of abuse out of the public eye completely, but I wouldn’t rely on that here.) When you start throwing around your wealth and power to make sure that the rules and standards of society don’t apply to you, well, then you’re no longer entitled to the benefit of the doubt, let alone to our affection and support. Once you think that you’re so different, that real life is happening somewhere else and you’re above it all and you do as you please, well, then you’re no longer entitled to the benefit of the doubt, let alone to our affection and support.
We foolishly think that people out there, people who run things and who live off a hundred thousand times what we do because an accident of economic design favours and values them in a way that it will never value us, people who run the businesses that employ us, sit in the parliaments and seats of government and legislate for us, adminster our mortgages, savings and pension funds – we foolishly think that they must see our world as we do, that they are, fundamentally, people like us. We imagine it’s reasonable that they should be treated in the same way as we would expect to. We imagine they would want to behave in ways that we consider reasonable to other people, and to us. Fools that we are.
There’s only one person to play records by today.
June 26, 2009 at 11:14 am
Well said sir.
June 26, 2009 at 11:39 am
On a day on which much rubbish will be written, it’s nice to read some sense.
And sure, it’s sad that a great musical talent has been lost… but then you could argue it’s been lost for a long time anyway.
Fine post.
June 26, 2009 at 11:40 am
For all the allegations, I can’t bring myself to share your hatred for Jacko. That’s probably a flaw on my part – I almost feel guilty about it. I was fully behind Jarvis, but even he has said that his protest was against Jacko then – not the artist’s work as a whole, which he respected.
I suppose the issue is, can we divorce the artist from the art? Do Gary Glitter’s crimes stop us from appreciating the records he made (if we liked them in the first place, that is). For me, there’s a clean line between the person and the product… and as I say, I’m not sure I’m right in that opinion, but it’s how I feel. Whatever Jacko’s crimes, it doesn’t change the fact that I think Beat It is a great song. Maybe that makes me the fool.
June 26, 2009 at 7:43 pm
ta for this mister. it was only a tiny while ago people genuinely didn’t think we’d be able to play jacksons records any more – just like glitters – and all of a sudden we’re back to all this madness. and he never made a good record after off the wall the poor sod.
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June 26, 2009 at 7:44 pm
oh and screw you the guardian.
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June 26, 2009 at 8:13 pm
I can see where you are coming from Adam and I agree that when you use your position and money to make allegations go away then the rules no longer apply to you,. However I also know that as a parent no amount of money would ever have made me desist from getting justice for my child if what had been claimed had happened to either of my two and i would have done my damndest to protect my son’s anonymity and keep him out of the media.
I am no fan of Jackson and I believe that he was indeed a troubled individual but I did like Black and White.
As for Jarvis Cocker, well I’ll keep my opinions to myself but if your trying to tell me that the song posted is better than ABC, you are sorely mistaken.
June 26, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Sorry, that was supposed to be I Want You Back not ABC, although it is rather good as well
June 27, 2009 at 11:58 am
Some well made points by one and all. It is interesting to read the debate about the role of artist and product. It seems that music, in particular, invites a critical approach to the work of the artist when the artist him or herself comes across as a bit of a dick. Compare this to the works of film-makers like Peckinpah (alcoholic misogynist) or Polanski (alleged paedophile) and there doesn’t appear to be this kind of debate. Most sensible people (at least the ones I know) seem fairly unified in their view that Jackson – post Thriller – produced a very mixed bag. Even the most ardent fans will see the albums as a curates egg. But being an entertainer, and not merely a record maker, makes his personal life closer to the microscope. I, for my part, never loved, hated or pitied him – more a feeling of disinterest. I don’t like the idea of him buying his way around the legal system and this was clearly wrong, but nor would I launch into a tirade about how he should behave. The same applies to Jarvis Cocker by the way. More alarming than all this is the way that The Guardian (Hah!) seem to be censoring without debate. Room for a letter methinks.
June 28, 2009 at 3:32 pm
My initial reaction when I heard about the death of the ‘King Of Pop’ was that the record company execs would be rubbing their hands with glee (and it does seem that sales of MJ product have rocketed this past 48 hours).
I never had any hatred of Michael Jackson, even when the allegations were at their most sordid. I never pitied him either…I just switched off from it all…I suppose much in the same way as The Doctor has said above.
I’m more pissed-off that just because your views jarred with the sensistivity of those who run the Guardian’s comments pages that you were wiped-out without so much as a thank you. Its not as if you were inciting anything or expressing a view that was without merit. Indeed it seemed to be well argued.
Looking objectively at the death with the hindsight of a couple of days. Most folk have moved on…its the media who want to keep it going as it sells papers/grabs viewers. I’ll also be interested to learn in the fullness of time just what sort of ‘bad news’ is being buried right now……
June 28, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I think I was strangely wound up after reading the stuff about Mary Bell, which may be an odd connection but it’s just where I was at the time – that she’d done something absolutely terrible as a child and that she was afforded no public mercy or thought of mitigation, even thirty years later… but people gloss over any concerns about Jackson without a thought – they talk of his silliness – if we limit ourselves to what he has said, then having kids to stay at his house, giving them alcohol and then have them sleep with him in his bed is ’silliness’? Please.
I don’t know why I was cut by the Guardian – given that you can’t libel the dead and that it was an ‘open thread’ I don’t know why I got cut either time – I didn’t say ‘he did this’ but I did talk about allegations made against him. Ach well. I think I end up criticising the guardian quite often on here but it’s ‘in the family’ criticism – it’s the only paper I read and the only one I would read (despite the doctor ascertaining that the Morning Star was the only one not covering the Jackson story anywhere).
There’s a bigger point I might try and articulate at some point about the whole idea of peter pan and ‘he just never grew up’. Really? He was considered competent to manage his affairs, to take custody ‘his’ children. It troubles me that the people who probably were in the crowd burning down the paediatrician’s office in Newport and calling for Chris Morris’ blood after ‘that issue’ of Brass Eye are the same people saying that Jackson ‘might have been a bit silly’.
June 29, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Adam, I like what you wrote and share your sentiments exactly. And I am very curious as to what our treatment of Garry Glitter will be when he passes.
I’ve got another take on this, (which I should really post about instead of whispering it on other people’s blog comments!)which is that even without the surely damning allegations, MJ became exactly what he set out to be — a product, a commodity.
Yes, he altered the music business as we know it. And that’s nothing to be proud of either.
Thanks for posting this, it helps me feel less crazy in the midst of this circus where everyone, even music critics (!)refuse to acknowledge the elephant in the middle of the room.
xoxo,
Tart